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Joe Biden on grief. When did he grieve, and how did he cope with it?

President Joe Biden has experienced significant grief and loss in his life, including the loss of his first wife and daughter in a tragic accident and the loss of his son, Beau . He emphasized the importance of having a close and supportive family, including his sister and brother, who were there for him during those difficult times . Biden also highlighted the significance of reaching out and showing up for others who are going through tough times, as it can make a difference .

In coping with grief, Biden mentioned the role of faith, stating that having deep faith can be advantageous in navigating through challenging times . Additionally, he shared the importance of remembering loved ones and finding moments of joy amidst the pain .

Biden expressed the impact of receiving support from others, acknowledging that it requires courage and strength to be open to receiving help . He also emphasized the significance of being present for family and loved ones, actively listening to their problems, and letting them know that they are the most important thing in your life .

Overall, Biden's coping strategies include relying on the support of his close family, reaching out to others in need, finding solace in faith, and cherishing memories of loved ones .

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Jay Shetty: How did you allow yourself to receive that help too? I feel like, as you were mentioning earlier, with the loneliness and anxiety that exists, a lot of people either struggle to know what to say. I think we live in a society where people are like, well, what do I say if they've gone through that? And the opposite end, what you just said, being able to be open enough to actually receive help requires a certain amount of courage and strength as well. Well, I was...
(someone): Raising a family for real, an extended family, my grandparents as well, where my dad had an expression, family's the beginning, middle and end. There's a rule in the family growing up, not a joke. We didn't know it at the time, but whenever you wanted to speak to your mother or father, they said, he had a problem. No matter what they were doing, they stopped. No matter what they were doing, they stopped and heard you, listened to you. And I do the same with my children, and they do the same with theirs, because it's a matter of them knowing that They are the most important thing in your life. If they got a problem, you're there to listen. I have seven grandkids, five of them old enough to talk on the phone. You know, every day I either text them or call them. And as a matter of fact, during the campaign, I didn't realize they were having an interview on the four oldest grandchildren.
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Jay Shetty: Well, for me, it was my weight. I was overweight growing up, and it was the color of my skin. I grew up in an area where I wasn't surrounded by a lot of Indian people, and so those were the two reasons, except my mother didn't give me that advice. Sometimes I wish she did. My mother did the opposite. She actually came into my school and spoke to the teachers, which was really embarrassing at that age and, you know, not helpful for me.
(someone): Oh, no, I think maybe it is. You know, I had a similar thing. When I was in... I went to Catholic grade school in high school, and in those days you sat in alphabetical order. I was in the first row, Biden, four people down. In reading class, everybody read a paragraph. I got to my paragraph, and I remember what it was, because I used to try to memorize it. rather than have to look at the word when I was rereading it. And it said, and he was a gentle man. And the teacher said, what's that, Mr. Biden? She wanted him to say gentlemen, but it's easier to not let her say gentle man. I said, gentlemen, I said, Mr. Biden, what is that? And I got up and walked out and walked home, which is about two miles.
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Jay Shetty: I believe you're right. I believe we often overcomplicate things. We think we have to say the perfect thing. We have to have the solution. We have to be able to fix someone's problem. I agree.
(someone): But it's just half of it's just showing up. Even people you don't know that well, but you've met, the fact you'd call and say, I'm thinking of you. I've learned this from my experience. The day will come. When you open that closet door and you smell the fragrance of her dresses, or you're going by that park where you walked with your child or your wife or your husband, or the thing that reminds you. And for the longest time, it'll just bring a tear to your eye. But eventually, every once in a while, it'll bring a smile to your lips before it brings a tear to your eye. When that happens, you know you're gonna make it. That's the moment you know, it doesn't mean you still don't cry. It doesn't mean the pain still isn't real, even years later, but you know you can make it. I think there's an advantage sometimes if you have deep faith, whether you're, you know, Catholic, Protestant, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, you know, whatever.
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(someone): Did you ever see the movie, The King's Speech? Yes, of course. Well, the gentleman who had a copy of The King's Speech, who did it, sent me a copy. And I don't know if I have my book with me, but there's a, one of these days I'll show you my speeches. I looked at it, and I marked it up the same way. Every speech I mark up is the same way. I think they might have it. See the slash marks I put on? Yes. Well, it's just to help me. But, you know, there were people who reached out to me, too. Maybe that impediment was the best thing that ever happened to me.
Jay Shetty: It's incredible, isn't it, how a challenge that you're going through actually helps you become more compassionate and empathetic towards other people?
(someone): It's kind of human nature for most people. When you understand the pain someone's feeling, your first instinct is, look, we have an expression in the family from the time I was a kid. It's all about showing up. to just being there. I mean, I imagine the times when you were down because they're making fun of your Indian heritage and an all-white population, that having someone come up and say, hey, come on, you and me, let's do boom, makes a difference.
Jay Shetty: Absolutely.
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(someone): I was not in the accident. When I got home from the hospital, my sister and her husband already gave up their apartment and moved in, helped me raise my kid. My brother, we lived in a suburban area. It was more country than suburban. And there was a little barn, a garage barn. My brother came and he turned the loft of the barn into an apartment for himself. They were there for me all the time. That was a gigantic difference. My best friend in my life, my sister and my brother. And so I had an enormous advantage. And I think that when you see people who are going through something tough, it does matter if you reach out. I mean, it does matter. Like, for example, you know, you have a, when you're a senator, for all the years I was in a small state, you know, so many people, and people would pass away, you'd show up at the wake or the funeral, and no matter what was happening, I learned it early on, people would stop and just come and throw their arms around me. Because if they know you know the pain they feel, they get some solace in it. It's not always easy, but it's, it just matters just to, just to reach out. Let people know you see them.
Jay Shetty: How did you allow yourself to receive that help too? I feel like, as you were mentioning earlier, with the loneliness and anxiety that exists, a lot of people either struggle to know what to say.
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(someone): I built a smaller home. when the home we had, everybody moved out. But it sits on a pond, a 10-acre pond. And I was saying, my deceased wife, she lived in Lake Skaneateles, and the Finger Lake's beautiful. I said, you know, I wish Neely could have seen this. And my dad thought I was going to feel sorry for myself. So he came, he said, I'll be back. And he took off and he went up to the local Hallmark store and came back with this cartoon. This is his philosophy of life. It's Hagar the horrible, lightning strikes, his boat's going down. He's looking up to God in heaven and say, why me? The next frame, a voice from heaven comes by, why not? My dad would always say, what makes you so special? You don't have these problems. I'll put it down here. The other ones, there's a bunch there, but... Any you want to highlight? Well, one of my favorite ones is of that one, my son, Bo. This is when he came home from being in Iraq for a year with his unit. And this is his son, little Hunter, got on his shoulders and wouldn't get off his shoulders, just would not. I mean, for hours, was on his shoulders.
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(someone): Get up, walk down, go back to class, Joey. But you know, everybody has something that is tough, particularly when you're younger. And it makes such a difference when somebody reaches out. I'm sure you also had some experience where someone would say, come on. Like, for example, there's more than a handful of young stutterers. They're not so young anymore that I still keep in touch with them. One young kid introduced me when I ran for president. He took such courage because he talked like that. And he practiced, and he practiced, and he practiced. But it's had a profound impact on his life. Another young man, when I was vice president, he was, I could tell, you can tell a stutterer, if you're a stutterer, just by when you're, he was in line with his mom, was in Tennessee, and I was doing a thing for Al Gore, and she introduced her son, and I could see him go, his lips, I said, I said, hey, I'm about to finish my speech, Why don't you come help me write it? And the mother looked at me and he looked at me and took him in. I showed him how I marked up my speeches so that I could get a little cadence with what I did. Did you ever see the movie, The King's Speech? Yes, of course.
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(someone): I said, gentlemen, I said, Mr. Biden, what is that? And I got up and walked out and walked home, which is about two miles. And my mother was sitting there tapping the table when I walked in and said, get in the car. Went down in the car, we walked in, went to the principal's office, sat me outside the door. The door was cracked, you know, it was one of those opaque glasses, glass windows, and it didn't go to the ceiling. Anyway, to make a long story short, she said, I'd like to speak to the teacher, my mother said. And she said, I said, I'd like to speak to the teacher. So the teacher walks in, looked at me like, you're in trouble now, Biden. Walked in, sat down. There was a crack in the door. I'll never forget this. And my mother, Catherine Eugenia Finnegan Biden, and she looked and I could say, what did you say to my son? She said, did you say Biden? So I was just trying to make a point, Mrs. Biden. She said, if you ever do that again, I'll come back and rip that bonnet off your head. Do you understand me? I swear to God. Get up, walk down, go back to class, Joey. But you know, everybody has something that is tough, particularly when you're younger.
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Jay Shetty: Where does the president seek support and guidance in your own challenges and journey?
(someone): Well, My best friend is my wife, a woman who has probably had more to do with my success than anyone is my sister Valerie and my brother Jim. And I think that's the place where I go most, but also I have a great advantage over the years I've I've grown to have some great, great relationships with people I've worked with and or one of my staff. And I think most of my staff would tell you, the senior staff, is I don't treat them like they work for me. I treat them which they are. The reason I hire them, I want them to know more than I know. And there's some things that I seek advice from a religious perspective. but that's really personal.
Jay Shetty: Yeah, beautiful. Okay, third question. I believe it's been said that you told your first wife when you met her that you wanted to be, or one day you would be the president of the United States. Is that true?
(someone): No, it's not true. I love it. I read all this. What I did tell her, and the same with, no man deserves one great love, let alone two, for real. The two women that I married, one passed away. were women I knew when I went out with them the first time I wanted to marry them.
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(someone): That's why when I ran, I said I ran for three reasons. One, to restore the soul of America, a sense of decency, just the way we talk to one another. Secondly, to build this country from the middle out and the bottom up. The wealthy still do very well, but everybody has a shot. And thirdly, to unite the country. And I think we can do it. I really, genuinely do. But then again, as I often refer to, I'm a cockeyed optimist, but I really believe it.
Jay Shetty: Mr. President, thank you so much for the honor. I'm so grateful. I have two tiny requests for you. I'd love for you, if you don't mind, to walk me through what's here, because I saw these beautiful pictures when I walked in, and I thought they looked really special, and I'd love for you to share them.
(someone): My dad was a real gentleman and a well-read man, never got a chance to go to college. And he'd always say, Joey, never explain, never complain. And so we were having my fourth reelection effort as a senator in the late 90s. And my dad was over at our house to be there with me. And I was standing on this back porch overlooking this pond. I built a smaller home. when the home we had, everybody moved out.
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(someone): And sometimes it's just touching, just showing up. I used to get my deceased son, Bo, who should be sitting here instead of me, would always say, Dad, you don't have time to make that call. I'd get in a plane and go home, and because someone had a serious problem, lost a wife, a daughter, and I'd say, Dad, you don't have time. When he passed away, the hundreds of people that told me how he called, he showed up, he was there.
Jay Shetty: It just really matters. Yeah. You've been through, you mentioned it there, you've been through so much tragic loss in your life as you just mentioned there. You didn't run for presidency in 2016 shortly after the loss of your son. You've lost your first wife and daughter in a horrific accident. I can't even begin to understand how someone has the courage to process that much loss and grief, let alone move forward in the way you have. It's truly admirable. How did you begin?
(someone): I had an overwhelming advantage in the loss, and that was I had a really close family that was there. For example, when my wife and daughter were killed, my first wife, and my two boys were very badly injured, a tractor trailer brought side of them. I was not in the accident. When I got home from the hospital, my sister and her husband already gave up their apartment and moved in, helped me raise my kid.
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(someone): He said, I just read in the paper, you travel a million, 100,000 miles on Air Force planes because you have to list how many miles you travel on. And he said, big deal. He said, Joey, we had a retirement dinner. He said, you know what? We figured out. You know how many miles you travel in Amtrak? I said, no. He said, 1,200,000 miles, 119 days a year, 300 miles round trip, 36 years plus. I'm going to go. My point was I was on a train a lot. And so when I get home, there wasn't much to watch. I mean, not it was to watch, but I'd always make sure, I think, and I think, you know, all your guests know this, that children need to know that they're the most important thing in your life. So even if I got home late, I'd climb in bed, or my two boys at the time, and just, even if they were asleep, and get up in the morning, and it wasn't like Ozzie and Harriet, I wasn't fixing their breakfast, but I'd be there and have breakfast with them. They'd take off for school, I'd take off for the train. So I've been back and forth so much, I haven't, I just haven't watched many, and by the way, there's a lot of good stuff, I'm sure.
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(someone): Get up, walk down, go back to class, Joey. But you know, everybody has something that is tough, particularly when you're younger. And it makes such a difference when somebody reaches out. I'm sure you also had some experience where someone would say, come on. Like, for example, there's more than a handful of young stutterers. They're not so young anymore that I still keep in touch with them. One young kid introduced me when I ran for president. He took such courage because he talked like that. And he practiced, and he practiced, and he practiced. But it's had a profound impact on his life. Another young man, when I was vice president, he was, I could tell, you can tell a stutterer, if you're a stutterer, just by when you're, he was in line with his mom, was in Tennessee, and I was doing a thing for Al Gore, and she introduced her son, and I could see him go, his lips, I said, I said, hey, I'm about to finish my speech, Why don't you come help me write it? And the mother looked at me and he looked at me and took him in. I showed him how I marked up my speeches so that I could get a little cadence with what I did. Did you ever see the movie, The King's Speech? Yes, of course.
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(someone): It doesn't mean the pain still isn't real, even years later, but you know you can make it. I think there's an advantage sometimes if you have deep faith, whether you're, you know, Catholic, Protestant, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, you know, whatever. My family, when they want to get an important message to me, they tape it on the mirror in the bathroom. I'm serious, not a joke. So you wake up in the morning and- Yeah, no, it's on the mirror. I guess I was down early on, it's not gonna be 10 years ago, And my daughter, Ashley, taped on my, she's a social worker, taped on my mirror, happiness is something to do, someone to love and someone to look forward to. And dad, you have all those things. Just remind you, you know.
Jay Shetty: I think what you just said about the smile before the tear is probably one of the realest things I've ever heard. I think we often are trying to create a world in which we only have smiles and we're, We put pressure on ourselves and the people around us to be forever happy. And what you just said there was really, really resonated with me. It really hit me actually, the idea that you will cry, it will happen, but that tiny smile that you experience, even through a loss, even through grief, you're fortunate that you got to have that experience that allowed you to find that smile at that time.
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(someone): You have cancer. It just strikes fear in everybody. Well, it's one thing to get an analysis by a great doctor, but you still need someone to guide you through. It's complicated. And we're finding significant breakthroughs in cancer. But you need someone to sort of lead you through who knows about it. I think it's the same way with about any problem people have. If there's a way to let people know there's an avenue, there's a way through. You know, I used to have a friend named Bob Gold who died of a heart attack, and I used to say, Bob, do you understand me? He'd say, Joe, I don't understand you, I overstand you. But you got to know how to know. And that's why we can be so of little things that can be of enormous value. It's like, you know, you're walking across an intersection. They don't let me do that anymore, but you walk across the intersection and there's a, you know, an elderly man or woman knowing they're waiting to see if they have enough time. Just grabbing their hand and walking them across. It's a little tiny thing, but the anxiety, it relieves.
Jay Shetty: Yeah, no, that resonates. The idea of the more we're a part of the solution, the less the problem feels overwhelming. I think so.
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(someone): I was not in the accident. When I got home from the hospital, my sister and her husband already gave up their apartment and moved in, helped me raise my kid. My brother, we lived in a suburban area. It was more country than suburban. And there was a little barn, a garage barn. My brother came and he turned the loft of the barn into an apartment for himself. They were there for me all the time. That was a gigantic difference. My best friend in my life, my sister and my brother. And so I had an enormous advantage. And I think that when you see people who are going through something tough, it does matter if you reach out. I mean, it does matter. Like, for example, you know, you have a, when you're a senator, for all the years I was in a small state, you know, so many people, and people would pass away, you'd show up at the wake or the funeral, and no matter what was happening, I learned it early on, people would stop and just come and throw their arms around me. Because if they know you know the pain they feel, they get some solace in it. It's not always easy, but it's, it just matters just to, just to reach out. Let people know you see them.
Jay Shetty: How did you allow yourself to receive that help too? I feel like, as you were mentioning earlier, with the loneliness and anxiety that exists, a lot of people either struggle to know what to say.
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(someone): I built a smaller home. when the home we had, everybody moved out. But it sits on a pond, a 10-acre pond. And I was saying, my deceased wife, she lived in Lake Skaneateles, and the Finger Lake's beautiful. I said, you know, I wish Neely could have seen this. And my dad thought I was going to feel sorry for myself. So he came, he said, I'll be back. And he took off and he went up to the local Hallmark store and came back with this cartoon. This is his philosophy of life. It's Hagar the horrible, lightning strikes, his boat's going down. He's looking up to God in heaven and say, why me? The next frame, a voice from heaven comes by, why not? My dad would always say, what makes you so special? You don't have these problems. I'll put it down here. The other ones, there's a bunch there, but... Any you want to highlight? Well, one of my favorite ones is of that one, my son, Bo. This is when he came home from being in Iraq for a year with his unit. And this is his son, little Hunter, got on his shoulders and wouldn't get off his shoulders, just would not. I mean, for hours, was on his shoulders.
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(someone): Did you ever see the movie, The King's Speech? Yes, of course. Well, the gentleman who had a copy of The King's Speech, who did it, sent me a copy. And I don't know if I have my book with me, but there's a, one of these days I'll show you my speeches. I looked at it, and I marked it up the same way. Every speech I mark up is the same way. I think they might have it. See the slash marks I put on? Yes. Well, it's just to help me. But, you know, there were people who reached out to me, too. Maybe that impediment was the best thing that ever happened to me.
Jay Shetty: It's incredible, isn't it, how a challenge that you're going through actually helps you become more compassionate and empathetic towards other people?
(someone): It's kind of human nature for most people. When you understand the pain someone's feeling, your first instinct is, look, we have an expression in the family from the time I was a kid. It's all about showing up. to just being there. I mean, I imagine the times when you were down because they're making fun of your Indian heritage and an all-white population, that having someone come up and say, hey, come on, you and me, let's do boom, makes a difference.
Jay Shetty: Absolutely.
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(someone): Be sure to subscribe and share.
Jay Shetty: I believe you're right. I believe we often overcomplicate things. We think we have to say the perfect thing. We have to have the solution. We have to be able to fix someone's problem. I agree.
(someone): But it's just half of it's just showing up. Even people you don't know that well, but you've met, the fact you'd call and say, I'm thinking of you. I've learned this from my experience. The day will come. When you open that closet door and you smell the fragrance of her dresses, or you're going by that park where you walked with your child or your wife or your husband, or the thing that reminds you. And for the longest time, it'll just bring a tear to your eye. But eventually, every once in a while, it'll bring a smile to your lips before it brings a tear to your eye. When that happens, you know you're gonna make it. That's the moment you know, it doesn't mean you still don't cry. It doesn't mean the pain still isn't real, even years later, but you know you can make it. I think there's an advantage sometimes if you have deep faith, whether you're, you know, Catholic, Protestant, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, you know, whatever.
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Jay Shetty: How did you allow yourself to receive that help too? I feel like, as you were mentioning earlier, with the loneliness and anxiety that exists, a lot of people either struggle to know what to say. I think we live in a society where people are like, well, what do I say if they've gone through that? And the opposite end, what you just said, being able to be open enough to actually receive help requires a certain amount of courage and strength as well. Well, I was...
(someone): Raising a family for real, an extended family, my grandparents as well, where my dad had an expression, family's the beginning, middle and end. There's a rule in the family growing up, not a joke. We didn't know it at the time, but whenever you wanted to speak to your mother or father, they said, he had a problem. No matter what they were doing, they stopped. No matter what they were doing, they stopped and heard you, listened to you. And I do the same with my children, and they do the same with theirs, because it's a matter of them knowing that They are the most important thing in your life. If they got a problem, you're there to listen. I have seven grandkids, five of them old enough to talk on the phone. You know, every day I either text them or call them. And as a matter of fact, during the campaign, I didn't realize they were having an interview on the four oldest grandchildren.
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(someone): I said, gentlemen, I said, Mr. Biden, what is that? And I got up and walked out and walked home, which is about two miles. And my mother was sitting there tapping the table when I walked in and said, get in the car. Went down in the car, we walked in, went to the principal's office, sat me outside the door. The door was cracked, you know, it was one of those opaque glasses, glass windows, and it didn't go to the ceiling. Anyway, to make a long story short, she said, I'd like to speak to the teacher, my mother said. And she said, I said, I'd like to speak to the teacher. So the teacher walks in, looked at me like, you're in trouble now, Biden. Walked in, sat down. There was a crack in the door. I'll never forget this. And my mother, Catherine Eugenia Finnegan Biden, and she looked and I could say, what did you say to my son? She said, did you say Biden? So I was just trying to make a point, Mrs. Biden. She said, if you ever do that again, I'll come back and rip that bonnet off your head. Do you understand me? I swear to God. Get up, walk down, go back to class, Joey. But you know, everybody has something that is tough, particularly when you're younger.
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(someone): And sometimes it's just touching, just showing up. I used to get my deceased son, Bo, who should be sitting here instead of me, would always say, Dad, you don't have time to make that call. I'd get in a plane and go home, and because someone had a serious problem, lost a wife, a daughter, and I'd say, Dad, you don't have time. When he passed away, the hundreds of people that told me how he called, he showed up, he was there.
Jay Shetty: It just really matters. Yeah. You've been through, you mentioned it there, you've been through so much tragic loss in your life as you just mentioned there. You didn't run for presidency in 2016 shortly after the loss of your son. You've lost your first wife and daughter in a horrific accident. I can't even begin to understand how someone has the courage to process that much loss and grief, let alone move forward in the way you have. It's truly admirable. How did you begin?
(someone): I had an overwhelming advantage in the loss, and that was I had a really close family that was there. For example, when my wife and daughter were killed, my first wife, and my two boys were very badly injured, a tractor trailer brought side of them. I was not in the accident. When I got home from the hospital, my sister and her husband already gave up their apartment and moved in, helped me raise my kid.
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